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PostSubject: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:56 am

Part One (Tear Down & Build Quality)

I have got my hands on a Team Powers Plutonium Motor.
This specific one is a 17.5 motor for Stock Spec Class.

Packaging Looks Clean and very appealing. It is in par with the High end LRP X12 Packaging.


Inside you will presented with protective foam with slots containing:
1x Motor
1x Sensor cable
3x Solder Tabs (Which supposed to go on the Tabs of the motor or the cable from the ESC)
1x Set Up sheet for Tekin RS Pro ESC
1x General Manual for the motor



External Functions and Design
Front Bell/Cover are fully machined pieces, with a very unique look.
The end bell parts are also Machined pieces,
it sports a small window with the addition of the hash marks to display what timing you are on.
Numbers displayed are 0-2-4 in both negative and positive direction.
What they represent in true degrees is unsure at this point.




The end bell adjustments are controlled by 2 screws as seen below.
You don't have to remove the screws completely in order to rotate the timing.
This makes it very easy on cars such as, TC5, TC6, TCX E4RS, XXX-4
that house a sideways motor and expose the rear end bell to adjust timing on the fly.
This design also offer a large advantage over a X12 by LRP, which you have to carry inserts along with you.


Here comes my notorious part. hehehe
Complete disassembly of the motor.
Screw sets. Exposed is the 2 piece End bell cover.
Sensor unit and its insulation/secure Clamp piece.
The motor body which seems to be casted metal with very large cooling holes.
Its poles are labeled clearly with a sticker next to the solder tabs.
The front Bell and the Rotor (Sintered Rotor 12.3mm).



Thoughts on motor construction.
+Uniquely Machined Front Cover
+Metal/Machined End Bell cover and Timing Mechanism (Will not be damaged as Easy as some over Plastic End Bells)
+Clearly Readable Timing
+Easy Adjustable Timing
+Solid Construction of the motor

-Would like to see the ABC Labels to be engraved or edged into the motor can instead on the piece of sticker
(From past experience Some people dont have the best solder skill and might damage he ABC labels)

This motor from design and Initial driving tests is to be reckoned about. Its construction is rock solid.
It even has a large selection of Rotors to upgrade to if you want to shift its power band.
MSRP Price ranges from $77.99-85.00 which gives this motor a good price points
compared to other high end Brushless motors.


PART 2 Initial Testing and Information

Initial Notes.
-Motor comes in 2 distinct flavors, Low Turn Windings (for Pro and Mod classes) and High Turn Windings (for Stock and Pro Stock like classes)
-The major differences between these two types are these rotor specs: 12.35mm x 24mm(3.5turn~9.5turn), 12.3mm x 24mm(10.5turn~17.5turn)

-Motor loves to rev and output great KV.
-It has more RPM than Novaks, LRPs and other similar high end motors.
-Version 1 has 200-300 more KV than standard motors, Version 2 suppose to have 400+ more KV compared to their competition.

-Things i have realized after testing the Version 1 is that its a great motor. But pick a light chassis with the correct motor and combine it with a good ESC.
-Since the motor is very KV/rev happy the torque band seems to have shifted.

-Coming from a LRP X12 i will be using it as comparison.

Motor Feels:
-It has tons of RPM
-I had to gear down so i could get my torque back.
-Since they designed the motor with a RPM design it suffer a bit of torque loss.
Gained top speed despite the lower gearing.
-The motor is able to take quite a beating in heat where some motors suffer performance loss this motor just keeps on going with the same performance.



Part 3 Making it Perform beter for personal use and personal Driving habits

Things I did not like Personally, but other might prefere
-Too hot for my taste, even though it was able to handle it.
-Torque band has shifted too far up for personal driving style and track layout. (in Stock form it is perfect for Big tracks with long straights)

Things I Loved about the TeamPowers compared to the other Motors:
-End Bells Adjustment (Easy Access)
-Size of the motor (Compact)
-Construction of the motor (Everything is metal Little Plastic)

Goal to gain:
-Replace my current LRP X12 which uses snoying inserts to change timing
-Lower Heat output.
-Gain Torque
-Shift the Power band lower so i can access its full peakpower faster.
-Stay Roar Legal

The Answer:
Change the rotor to a 12.5mm rotor provided by Team Powers.
It is the biggest Rotor for this motor that is still Roar legal.
What it does, it give me more torque over The original rotor, which was 12.35 or 12.3 depending on wind.
Upping my rotor size gave me the torque needed and also in my case lowered my Temps at the same time.
I now was able to gear back up to the same settings as my LRP since my torque band is shifted lower.

i am 100% satisfied with this result to gladly switch fully to this motor for race purposes.

MORE INFO COMING SOON


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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:14 pm

I just love nude shots of motors.

Great review mang.
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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:35 pm

snellemin wrote:
I just love nude shots of motors.

Pervert! Hahahahah
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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:10 pm

Lol Rather look at naked motors than porno lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:29 pm

Part two (Initial thoughts on motor after running it in Different setups):
-The motor runs quite fast once geared correct.
-The motor is very rpm happy instead of torque.
-Due the rpm happy nature, it eliminates the ability to over gear but compensates through rpm and low gearing.
-Because of these characteristic the possibility of running hot on over gearing set ups is larger.
-Changing the timing to compensate for slight missgearing is fast and painless with the timing disc on the back.


Future tests/further tests:
Turbo and boost set up
Pan car set up
Rotor change
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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:55 am

Updated part 2 and 3
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PostSubject: Re: Brushless Team Powers Plutonium Motor 17.5   Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:14 pm

Nice review man.
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